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		<title>The Tale of Patrick Quinn</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 22:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[(with apologize to Sweeny Todd and Stephen Sondheim&#8211;this was written for a well known annual parody show, but is not being used and I didn&#8217;t want it to go to waste):
Attend the tale of Patrick Quinn
His job was tough, but his talent thin
He sent his plan to the gentlemen
But his ideas were never then heard [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(with apologize to Sweeny Todd and Stephen Sondheim&#8211;this was written for a well known annual parody show, but is not being used and I didn&#8217;t want it to go to waste):</p>
<p>Attend the tale of Patrick Quinn</p>
<p>His job was tough, but his talent thin</p>
<p>He sent his plan to the gentlemen</p>
<p>But his ideas were never then heard from again</p>
<p>He didn’t win the spot that he’s in</p>
<p>Our Patrick Quinn, The Bumbling Gov’nor in Spring….field</p>
<p><span id="more-2480"></span>He went to work with honesty</p>
<p>And told the truth for all to see</p>
<p>But that doesn’t work in Illinois</p>
<p>Where everyone thought it was just a ploy by Patrick</p>
<p>By Patrick Quinn, The Stumbling Gov’nor in Spring….field<!--more-->Raise the taxes high, Patrick</p>
<p>Graduate the pie</p>
<p>Don’t be nervous, social service we supply<!--more-->His needs are few, but the mansion great</p>
<p>His “Betsy” case &amp; a Super 8</p>
<p>No security guard or private plane</p>
<p>But a campaign staff and ads that explain</p>
<p>What he has done and why he’s been</p>
<p>This Patrick Quinn, The humbling Gov’nor in Spring….field</p>
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		<title>The Return of Scott Fawell</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanagora.com/2009/08/the-return-of-scott-fawell.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 01:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Dennis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anyone interested in the George Ryan story should watch the clip of Carol Marin&#8217;s interview w/ Scott Fawell and his squeeze from tonite&#8217;s Chicago Tonite:   http://www.wttw.com/main.taf?p=42,8,8&#38;vid=082609y
This brings back all the questions of what is politics and what is government and where are the lines.  That discussion has been lost w/ the total political and governmental [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone interested in the George Ryan story should watch the clip of Carol Marin&#8217;s interview w/ Scott Fawell and his squeeze from tonite&#8217;s Chicago Tonite:   http://www.wttw.com/main.taf?p=42,8,8&amp;vid=082609y</p>
<p>This brings back all the questions of what is politics and what is government and where are the lines.  That discussion has been lost w/ the total political and governmental incompetence of Blago.  But w/ Ryan there was a serious debate lost on where has the line shifted w/in the criminalization of politics and the redefinition of ethics.  Fawell was the downfall of Ryan and Ryan was the ghost of politics past and Patricks Fitzgerald/Collins were/are the ghosts of politics/government future.  Discuss&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>IL Special Election Joint Resolution?</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/12/can-a-legislative-joint-resolution-trump-a-state-statute.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
				<category><![CDATA[Illinois]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can a legislative joint resolution trump a state statute?  The answer to this question is almost always an immediate &#8220;No.&#8221;  But we may have a special case in Illinois.
As thinkers in Illinois debate ways to fill Obama&#8217;s seat, those calling for a special election have a big problem.  A current Illinois statute gives the Governor [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can a legislative joint resolution trump a state statute?  The answer to this question is almost always an immediate &#8220;No.&#8221;  But we <em>may</em> have a special case in Illinois.<span id="more-1979"></span></p>
<p><a href="http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/2008/12/29/question-of-the-day-656/#comments">As thinkers in Illinois debate ways to fill Obama&#8217;s seat</a>, those calling for a special election have a big problem.  A current Illinois statute gives the Governor power to fill Senate vacancies. 10 ILCS 5/25‑8.  Passing a new state law to reverse the old one requires Governor Blagojevich to sign away his power.  And he doesn&#8217;t have to veto it, he can merely put it in a drawer and run out the clock on the Illinois General Assembly to kill the bill.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution">Amendment 17</a> of the US Constitution vests the determination of whether or not to empower the Governor with the appointment power <em>solely with the state legislature</em>. In 1943, the legislature gave the Governor power to make the appointment by passing the statute referenced above, 10 ILCS 5/25‑8.  I wonder if a joint resolution calling for a special election, revoking the Governors power in this specific case, would hold up.</p>
<p>While in almost all cases a joint legislative resolution would be trumped by a state law, this may be a special case because the 17th Amendment doesn’t give the governor a role in the determining whether or not the Governor gets to make the appointment, and to reverse the law the Governor plays a vital role: <em>He has to sign the damn thing. </em></p>
<p>Because the authority at issue comes from the US Constitution, not state law, this may be a special case where a joint resolution could reverse a statute.</p>
<p>Finally, a few disclaimers:  (1)  I think there is a high probability this legal theory doesn&#8217;t stand up, greater than 50% chance this is nonsense; (2) I don’t think there is a chance this will happen because it would be foolish for Democrats to risk a special election. Good governance, sure, but smart politics, no way. And Madigan and Cullerton are both smart politicians; and (3) You may have seen this theory before, as I&#8217;ve posted it in the comments near the end of another thread, but I think its a novel enough thought/ situation that I wanted to raise it for discussion.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Capitol Fax&#8217;s Question of the Day</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As the Blagojevich circus continues to unfold, I want to recommend that our readers check out the updates at the Capitol Fax Blog. Today, two of our contributors, John Bambeneck and myself, have been debating on the threads.  I hope you&#8217;ll join in.
Impeachment hearings *** Monk’s cell phone tapped? ***
Question of the Day
The question of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the Blagojevich circus continues to unfold, I want to recommend that our readers check out the updates at the Capitol Fax Blog. Today, two of our contributors, John Bambeneck and myself, have been debating on the threads.  I hope you&#8217;ll join in.</p>
<p><a href="http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/2008/12/29/impeachment-hearings-2/">Impeachment hearings *** Monk’s cell phone tapped? ***</a></p>
<p><a href="http://thecapitolfaxblog.com/2008/12/29/question-of-the-day-656/">Question of the Day</a></p>
<p>The question of the day is based on a proposal by State Rep. Will Burns, who I got to know when I was working in Springfield.  Will is a creative and bright young rising star in the Democratic party.  And I always thought he was also a genuinely nice guy.<span id="more-1973"></span></p>
<p>Rich Miller asks the following question:</p>
<blockquote><p>The governor is supposed to appoint Barack Obama’s vacant Senate seat. But Rod Blagojevich is under a federal cloud of alleged corruption. And so the question remains on how this position will be filled.</p>
<p>Chicago Democrat Will Burns says he will put forth a bill in January that calls for the Illinois House and Senate to confirm the gubernatorial appointee.</p>
<p>BURNS: Balancing the fiscal problems the state is facing with the need for more disclosure and a better process, I thought that this hybrid proposal provides the public with more transparency.</p>
<p>Burns says a special election would be too costly. His proposal calls for two public hearings on the governor’s appointee. That person would then have to be approved by both chambers in Springfield. If passed, the new law would be limited to the Obama vacancy.</p>
<p><strong>* The Question</strong>: Does this seem like a reasonable alternative to you?  Or, do you prefer something else, like, perhaps, a special election.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.progressillinois.com/2008/12/29/columns/burns-alternative-senate-selection">Click here for Will Burns&#8217;s column on his proposal</a>.</p>
<p>I posted the following comment:</p>
<blockquote><p>It’s not 100% clear that this complies with the strictures of the 17th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, but I admire Rep. Burns’s creative solution. The big variable is whether or not Blago would sign such a law or put it in his pocket.</p>
<p>This could also be done informally, the ILGA could give the gov a list of 3 acceptable names.</p></blockquote>
<p>This is a Constitutional issue because the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventeenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution">17th Amendment</a> says the legislature can give the Governor power to make the appointment:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of each State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: <em>Provided</em>, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>The 17th Amendment doesn&#8217;t specifically empower the legislature to essentially give the Governor the power to nominate someone subject to their confirmation/ right of refusal.</p>
<p>There remain several potential informal solutions, I&#8217;ll mention two, and comment on the second.</p>
<p>1) Governor Blagojevich could agree to pick a name from 3-5 provided to him by party party leaders.</p>
<p>2) Durbin could call upon Blagojevich to make an appointment based on the recommendation of other party leaders/state &#8220;elder statesmen&#8221; and promise to make sure the pick is seated if Blagojevich goes with the panel&#8217;s choice.</p>
<p>This is good for Blagojevich because it gets the appointment out of the way which is one of the exigent circumstances making some want to act quickly to toss him out of office.  It is good for the Democrats generally because there is no special election.  It&#8217;s good for the people of Illinois because their Senator has more seniority.  It&#8217;s good for the Madigans, if you buy into the &#8220;slow-walk&#8221; theory, because it removes an exigency for bouncing Blagojevich. It&#8217;s good for Durbin because it shows leadership in a difficult time, and any &#8220;taint&#8221; of working with Blagojevich is overwhelmed by doing the business of the people and the fact that this proposal gives Blagojevich no real input on who the pick will be. And it&#8217;s good for U.S. Senate Democrats and Barack Obama because they are one vote closer to sixty from day one.</p>
<p>The only person it&#8217;s bad for is Pat Quinn.</p>
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		<title>Watch the IL House hearing on the proposed rules for the impeachment proceedings</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 17:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you&#8217;d like to watch the live hearing, which just started, click here.
Thanks to Rich Miller at Capitol Fax for providing the link.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;d like to watch the live hearing, which just started, <a href="http://live.ilga.gov/114video">click here</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks to Rich Miller at Capitol Fax for providing the link.</p>
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		<title>Passing the Torch</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 19:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Check out this picture from 1980 of a young Rod Blagojevich posing with Richard Nixon, who is giving Blagojevich his autograph.  And a bit of history from the TOC Blog:
If Blagojevich did set about modeling himself after Nixon, he’s most of the way there. Like his jowly political hero, Blago’s not going down without a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" title="Blagojevich and Nixon" src="http://www3.timeoutny.com/chicago/blog/out-and-about/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/picture-11.png" alt="" width="232" height="169" />Check out this picture from 1980 of a young Rod Blagojevich posing with Richard Nixon, who is giving Blagojevich his autograph.  And a bit of history from <a href="http://www3.timeoutny.com/chicago/blog/out-and-about/?p=10616">the TOC Blog</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>If Blagojevich did set about modeling himself after Nixon, he’s most of the way there. Like his jowly political hero, Blago’s not going down without a fight. Tricky Dick didn’t resign until after the House Judiciary Committee had approved the articles of impeachment and Nixon was certain he would lose the House vote and the subsequent Senate trial.</p></blockquote>
<p>(Thanks to <a href="http://www.urbanagora.com/?author=13">Kiyoshi</a> for sending this to me)</p>
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		<title>Hot Rod using the &#8220;Act Like Nothing Happened&#8221; Defense from Father Ted</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following arguably the most embarrassing political scandal in the history of Illinois, and that takes some doing, Governor Rod Blagojevich has chosen a curious path.  It seems that almost anyone would resign, or at a minimum apologize to the people or offer some sort of statement of regret.  Hot Rod Blagojevich, it seems, is using [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignright" title="Kicking Bishop Brennan up the Arse" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ec/Ted_kicks_Bishop_Brennan.jpg/256px-Ted_kicks_Bishop_Brennan.jpg" alt="" width="256" height="205" />Following arguably the most embarrassing political scandal in the history of Illinois, and that takes some doing, Governor Rod Blagojevich has chosen a curious path.  It seems that almost anyone would resign, or at a minimum apologize to the people or offer some sort of statement of regret.  Hot Rod Blagojevich, it seems, is using the &#8220;Act Like Nothing Happened Defense.&#8221;  Absurd!<span id="more-1868"></span></p>
<p>I was talking to my Dad last night when I realized that I&#8217;ve seen this defense employed before.  One of our all-time favorite shows is a British comedy called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Ted">Father Ted</a>.  Father Ted is about these three priests, none of whom should be priests, who were sent to this shitty little Island called <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craggy_Island">Craggy Island</a>, to minimize the damage they could do.  The three priests, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Ted#Ted">Father Ted</a>, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Ted#Jack">Father Jack</a>, and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Ted#Dougal">Father Douga</a>l are too corrupt, too drunk, and too dumb, respectively, to serve in any normal parish.  And they have a mean ass Bishop, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Father_Ted#Bishop_Brennan">Bishop Brennan</a>, who regularly threatens to send them to certain death in a jungle far away filled with hostile tribes.</p>
<p>In my favorite episode, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kicking_Bishop_Brennan_up_the_Arse">Kicking Bishop Brennan up the Arse</a>, (<a href="http://www.veoh.com/videos/v202740BWADZGw7">Click here to Watch the Episode</a>) Father Ted has lost a bet with another Priest, and has to Kick Bishop Brennan up the arse.  Ted is terrified and convinced that if he does it, Bishop Brennan will kill him, but he knows that he has to honor the bet.  Finally, Father Dougal, the total dipshit, comes up with a plan for how Ted could kick Bishop Brennan up the arse.  Dougal tells Ted that he could get away with it, if he just kicked him up the arse, then <em>acted like nothing happened</em>, because the Bishop wouldn&#8217;t believe Ted would ever be brave enough to kick him in the arse and he would think he imagined it.</p>
<p>As you might anticipate, this didn&#8217;t work out so well for Father Ted.    And I don&#8217;t think the &#8220;Act Like Nothing Happened Defense&#8221; is going to work much better for Blagojevich.</p>
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		<title>Case No. 107713 &#8211; Bambenek v. Milorad R. Blagojevich</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/12/case-no-107713-bambenek-v-milorad-r-blagojevich.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Dec 2008 03:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Attorney General Lisa Madigan wasn&#8217;t the only one to file suit today to remove Rod Blagojevich.  Urbanagora contributor John Bambenek also filed suit today.  
Here&#8217;s coverage of Bambenek&#8217;s filing in the Belleville News Democrat.  You can download the pleadings for Bambenek&#8217;s case or AG Madigan&#8217;s case here at a special page on the IL Supreme [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Attorney General Lisa Madigan wasn&#8217;t the only one to file suit today to remove Rod Blagojevich.  Urbanagora contributor <a href="http://www.urbanagora.com/?author=23">John Bambenek</a> also filed suit today.  <span id="more-1858"></span></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s coverage of Bambenek&#8217;s filing in the <a href="http://www.bnd.com/326/story/576860.html">Belleville News Democrat</a>.  You can download the pleadings for Bambenek&#8217;s case or AG Madigan&#8217;s case <a href="http://www.state.il.us/court/SupremeCourt/SpecialMatters/default.asp">here at a special page on the IL Supreme Court&#8217;s website</a>.</p>
<p>Illinois Review ran the following on Bambenek&#8217;s suit yesterday:</p>
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<h3 class="entry-header">Suit to be filed Friday before Illinois Supreme Court to remove Governor</h3>
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<p><strong>SPRINGFIELD </strong>&#8211; Frustrated by the lack of direct action on the part of state legislative leadership, two private Illinois citizens said Friday they will be filing a petition before the Illinois Supreme Court to temporarily remove <strong>Governor Rod Blagojevich</strong> from office.</p>
<p>&#8220;<strong>Attorney General Lisa Madigan</strong> has been bringing up the possibility of removing the governor from office based on <a href="http://www.state.il.us/court/SupremeCourt/Rules/Art_III/ArtIII.htm#382">Illinois Supreme Court&#8217;s Rule 382</a>, which allows the court to move quicker than any other recourse,&#8221; petitioner <strong>John Bambenek</strong> of Champaign told <em>Illinois Review</em> today. &#8220;Illinois can&#8217;t wait for months for the Governor to step down, we have too many crucial issues before us to wait.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The standards for incapacity are very broad.  We&#8217;re saying he&#8217;s unable to fulfill his duty to appoint someone to fill the U.S. Senate seat, since <strong>Senate Majority leader Harry Reid</strong> refuses to accept his appointment,&#8221; Bambenek said.  &#8220;He&#8217;s also unable to function politically, because he&#8217;s been caught on tape compromising his office.  We&#8217;re also stating in the petition that <strong>Attorney General Madigan</strong> has a potential conflict of interest, as she has stated her own interest in running for governor in the future.&#8221;</div>
<p>Bambenek, co-foundeer of <strong>Illinois Citizen Coalition</strong> will be joined in the petition by Hinsdale resident <strong>Adam Andrzejewski</strong>, director of the year-old good government group &#8220;<a href="http://www.forthegoodofillinois.org/">For the Good of Illinois</a>.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Also, a fun fact John mentions on his blog, <a href="http://www.parttimepundit.com/archives/2626">both he and Blago have been on the Daily Show</a>.</p>
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		<title>Some ways to fill Obama&#8217;s seat</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 00:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Out of the chaos of the Blagojevich controversy, somehow we need a new U.S. Senator.  Here I&#8217;ll explain some of the problems with Durbin&#8217;s special election proposal, and offer a few alternatives. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Out of the chaos of the Blagojevich controversy, somehow we need a new U.S. Senator.  Here I&#8217;ll explain some of the problems with Durbin&#8217;s special election proposal, and offer a few alternatives. <span id="more-1834"></span></p>
<p>First I want to recommend the <a href="http://thecapitolfaxblog.com">Capitol Fax Blog</a> to all of our readers who are interested in monitoring the Blagojevich scandal, news on the IL Senate seat, and all of the fallout from this controversy.  When I worked in Illinois state politics, Rich Miller&#8217;s Capitol Fax was the single best resource for the news of the day.   It&#8217;s a great site to bookmark and check regularly if you&#8217;re interested in Illinois politics.</p>
<p>While most of these ideas are a little off the wall, and unlikely, this post was largely intended as a brainstorming session.  I&#8217;m hoping some readers might add thoughts of their own.</p>
<p><strong>Special Election</strong></p>
<p>Durbin, and several other Illinois politicians, have called for a special election to fill the vacancy.  In coming days we will probably see many who objected to a con-con for costs reasons, advocating a statewide special election.  In addition to being expensive (estimated at up to 50 million dollars) a special election is too slow.  It is in the best interest of the people of Illinois to appoint the new Senator before all the newly elected Senators are sworn in.  The U.S. Senate is a body where seniority matters a great deal.  I would rather our new Senator be more senior than all of the newly elected Democrats, rather than our new Senator be the most junior member of the U.S. Senate.</p>
<p>It could take a long time to pass legislation to hold a special election.  As the aforementioned Rich Miller notes in his <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/miller/1322659,CST-EDT-miller10.article">column</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>The first problem which springs to mind is that Blagojevich, who was arrested Tuesday for allegedly trying to auction Obama’s vacant seat to the highest bidder, would have to sign the [special election] bill into law.</p>
<p>Our jailbird governor could sit on the bill for 60 days before he does anything. And he might just veto it, which would only prolong the process.</p></blockquote>
<p>On his Blog Miller adds, &#8220;Plus, if he waits to veto the bill after the General Assembly adjourns <em>sine die</em> on January 14th, the bill dies.&#8221;</p>
<p>This does require changing state law, specifically, the ILGA would have to amend 10 ILCS 5/25‑8:</p>
<blockquote><p>Sec. 25‑8. When a vacancy shall occur in the office of United States Senator from this state, the Governor shall make temporary appointment to fill such vacancy until the next election of representatives in Congress, at which time such vacancy shall be filled by election, and the senator so elected shall take office as soon thereafter as he shall receive his certificate of election.  (Source: Laws 1943, vol. 2, p. 1.)</p></blockquote>
<p>From a partisan standpoint, this is really dumb.  It risks losing the seat to a Republican, perhaps someone like Mark Kirk.  Hell, Jim Edgar today is talking about how he regrets not running for Governor in 2006.  I&#8217;m not sure there are many Democrats who could beat Edgar in a statewide race for anything,  Kirk still has a sizable war chest, and there are several other Republicans that could enter the race with reasonable winning chances.  The Blago scandal will mobilize the GOP base, hurt dem turnout, and maybe help sway some independents with Blago=Whoever ads.  (It would also be easy for any Republican to raise money in this climate from interest groups who want to make sure the GOP hold back cloture votes on issues like the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employee_Free_Choice_Act">EFCA</a>.)</p>
<p>The counter argument is that any appointment by Blagojevich will be tainted and lose in two years because Blagojevich appointing him/her.  Or a broader point, that with all of the corruption and bribery at issue here, the only path to legitimacy is a popular election.  I think both of these points of view are too narrow.</p>
<p><strong>Alternatives to a special election:</strong></p>
<div><em>1.  Impeach Blago&#8217;s corrupt ass and let Pat Quinn pick</em>.  This seems to me like the best approach, while he is still innocent at law until proven guilty, in the public mind he has lost all credibility, and no longer has the ability to effectively lead the state.  He is unquestionably undeserving of the highest gift at the disposal of the people of Illinois.  He has lost the public trust.  We don&#8217;t need to wait for a guilty verdict to toss him.</div>
<div>There is no chance a Pat Quinn pick will be tainted by Blagojevich, because Quinn and Blago hate each other.  Quinn had an answer at a press conference yesterday that illustrates just how bad their relationship is.  He was asked when the last time he talked to the Governor was.  I think many expected, &#8220;this morning&#8221; or &#8220;last night&#8221; or &#8220;a few weeks ago.&#8221;  But he hesitated, and said &#8220;I think it was June&#8230;of 2007.&#8221;  Wow.  Good for Pat Quinn!</div>
<div>Some observers think that Quinn is too much of a wild man to be trusted with this pick.  I love Pat Quinn.  And I think he&#8217;s reasonable, and given this time of crisis, he could be be prevailed upon to make a moderate, broadly agreeable pick, especially if his agreeing to do so can expedite the impeachment process making him Governor.  Michael Madigan and John Cullerton (new State Sen. Pres) could work out a short list of names with him, and move ahead with impeachment if he agrees to this, and likely several other conditions.  Even if he wouldn&#8217;t compromise with Madigan and Cullerton on the pick, anyone Quinn would pick would likely be a good government populist, and we could sure use another one of those in the Senate, not to mention how much good it would do to have someone with as much public integrity as Quinn in the Governor&#8217;s mansion.</div>
<div><em>2.  Create legitimacy for a Blagojevich pick. </em>This is easier than it sounds.  Madigan and Cullerton broker a limited deal on the pick where Blagojevich could publicly state that he will appoint a panel of Democratic leaders/ statesmen in Illinois, or a bipartisan group, to deliberate, interview candidates and make the pick.  The group would have to be totally independent, and have the stature for the public to trust their independence, and he would have to agree to appoint whoever they pick.  The right group of leaders, preferably those with limited ties to Blagojevich, could appear legitimate enough to avoid the Blagojevich taint.  We do have some Democratic statesmen left, despite losing the great Paul Simon, such a panel could include: Dawn Clark Netch, Abner Mikva, Adlai Stevenson III, Alan Dixon, Glenn Poshard, etc.</div>
<div>As a pragmatic democrat, I am much more worried about losing the Senate seat now in a special election due to immediate backlash to the Blagojevich scandal than I am concerned that the Blagojevich taint will render any candidate, no matter how credible and independent, incapable of winning in two years.  If the candidate is too tainted, they will lose in the Democratic primary.  And it&#8217;s almost always better to hold the seat now, given how unpredictable politics has become.  This proposal would be best if it wasn&#8217;t suggested by Blagojevich.</div>
<div><em>3.  Blagojevich could pick someone with sufficient independent credibility that the U.S. Senate would have to seat them, possibly an elder statesman to hold the seat for two years until the next election. </em>Again, Dawn Clark Netch, Abner Mikva, Adlai Stevenson III, Alan Dixon, and Glenn Poshard come to mind.  Thought a few of these might not be healthy enough to serve.  When the 2010 election rolls around the impact of the Blagojevich scandal wont be driving Republicans to the polls in a special election.  While this approach sacrifices seniority for the next, hopefully longer term Senator, for the next two years Dems hold the seat, and are a step closer to winning cloture votes in the 111th Congress.</div>
<div><em>4.  Blagojevich could briefly step aside and allow Pat Quinn to make the appointment. </em>Assuming it becomes apparent in the next few days that the ILGA lacks the will to impeach Blagojevich, and that Blagojevich wont sign the special election law, but it is apparent any appointment he makes will not be seated, the IL Constitution may provide another way out of this mess.  He may be able to use what Pat Quinn referred to as the &#8220;step-aside&#8221; provision for the very limited purpose of appointing a new Senator, but this would involve a hairy arrangement for reclaiming his office, because of the IL Constitution doesn&#8217;t specify a clear way for the Governor to reclaim his post, but instead leaves it to the ILGA to sort out.</div>
<div>From IL Constitution, Article V, Section 6:</div>
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<div>(c)  Whenever the Governor determines that he may be seriously impeded in the exercise of his powers, he shall so notify the Secretary of State and the officer next in line of succession. The latter shall thereafter become Acting Governor with the duties and powers of Governor. When the Governor is prepared to resume office, he shall do so by notifying the Secretary of State and the Acting Governor.<br />
(d)  The General Assembly by law shall specify by whom and by what procedures the ability of the Governor to serve or to resume office may be questioned and determined. The Supreme Court shall have original and exclusive jurisdiction to review such a law and any such determination and, in the absence of such a law, shall make the determination under such rules as it may adopt.</div>
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<div>For this to work, the ILGA would likely have to agree in advance to make this arrangement, which would be untenable given the political will of the people to impeach Blagojevich.  But given the time and expense of a special election, it might be a compromise, provided that Pat Quinn would make a pick the ILGA leaders could live with.</div>
<div><em>5.  Allow Blagojevich to pick, but legislatively force his hand. </em>This is a creative constitutional argument that could potentially work, but I haven&#8217;t seen it proposed anywhere.  Blagojevich may resent complete surrender of the appointment power enough that he wont sign the legislation for the special election, and the timing and cost elements may give him cover to do so.  The Governor&#8217;s power to appoint comes from the U.S. Constitution, Amendment XVII.  The relevant section is:</div>
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<div>When vacancies happen in the representation of any State in the Senate, the executive authority of each State shall issue writs of election to fill such vacancies: <em>Provided</em>, That the legislature of any State may empower the executive thereof to make temporary appointments until the people fill the vacancies by election as the legislature may direct.</div>
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<div>The amendment specifies the legislature may empower the executive to make temporary appointments, but it <em>doesn&#8217;t specify how</em> the legislature may empower the executive to make temporary appointments.  The legislature could change the IL statute to say, &#8220;the Governor may appoint a candidate chosen by the state legislature or call a special election&#8221; or &#8220;The Governor may appoint one of three prospective candidates chosen by the legislature or call a special election.&#8221;  While its unlikely Blago would be willing to pass this law, but would veto the special election law, it may give him a way to save face by techinically retaining power, get the U.S. Senate to seat the choice, reduce the Blago taint, and avoid the cost and expense of a special election.</div>
<p><strong>An unlikely scenario that could work, but wont happen:</strong></p>
<div><em>Blagojevich could defer to the President-Elect&#8217;s choice. </em>Assuming Blago would agree,<em> </em>Obama could save the day by asking the Governor to appoint someone, preferably someone who has no connections with Blagojevich or Rezko.  At this point most would agree there is no risk of Blagojevich gaining anything from appointing whoever Obama wants.  He is too toxic for Obama to help in any way, and Obama can state that he will never, under any circumstances, issue a pardon to Blagojevich or any of his associates.</div>
<div>While Obama may have a preference, and he certainly wants the appointment filled sooner rather than later so he has another vote to move his agenda early, and he would probably prefer not to risk letting a Republican win the seat, Obama should stay the hell away from this.  he&#8217;s already called for a special election.  Plus he doesn&#8217;t want to be the one to say no to a bunch of up-and-coming Illinois Dems.  And the good government approach, consistent with his interest in protecting his message and image, is calling for a special election.</div>
<div><em>Authors note:  In an earlier version of this post I made a silly mistake based on misreading the XVII Amendment too quickly.  I briefly thought the ILGA could amend the IL law and give themselves the power to name the replacement, as the state legislatures did before XVII.  I apologize for the error.  Also, I may further amend this post if I have other ideas or decide any of these are completely impossible.</em></div>
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		<title>Hunting Down the Deadbeat Parents</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:45:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The following is a guest post by longtime Urbanagora reader Amanda.  Amanda is commenting on this Press Release by the Blagojevich Administration.

As a student of economics, I think of policy as a way to &#8220;get the incentives right.&#8221; An argument could be made that parents not paying child support is a market failure, where the market for raising [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>The following is a guest post by longtime Urbanagora reader Amanda.  Amanda is commenting on <a href="Blagojevich Administration Successfully Collects Child Support from Parents Seeking Hunting and Fishing Licenses ">this Press Release</a> by the Blagojevich Administration.<br />
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<p>As a student of economics, I think of policy as a way to &#8220;get the incentives right.&#8221; An argument could be made that parents not paying child support is a market failure, where the market for raising children would normally operate with parents meeting the finanical needs of their children.  In an attempt to correct this market failure, Illinois Human and Family Services and the Illinois Department of Natural Resources created a program to withhold hunting and fishing licenses to child support deliquent parents. I&#8217;m not going to go into whether or not hunting is a &#8220;right&#8221; or a &#8221;privilege&#8221; to be &#8220;granted&#8221; by the state, but that is also an interesting question.  Illinois found a way to track down a certain subset of delinquent parents and gave them the choice to either pay their child support payments and get their license or not pay and not have the right to hunt (legally). The fact that the program contributed to the greatest collection of child support payments on record suggests that the policy is working.  Could there be other ways to find delinquent parents and get them to cough up the money to make their kids&#8217; lives better off? Suspending driving privileges is another step, though if the Illinois driver never gets pulled over, he/she would only face &#8220;payment or suspension&#8221; every 4 years (renewal requirements for 21-80 year olds) rather than the yearly renewal of hunting and fishing permits.</p>
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