Comments on: Pitbull with Lipstick http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html An exchange of ideas from thinkers spanning the spectrum Wed, 18 Jan 2012 21:26:43 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: tet http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html/comment-page-1#comment-8160 tet Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:07:00 +0000 http://www.bridgeportstudios.com/urbanagora/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html#comment-8160 Hmmm. Probably no more so than citizens of large cities, Buck.<br/><br/>Oh...wait.<br/><br/>The point I was making was that it is not in the best interest of the Obama campaign to keep harping on her "small-town" roots, especially since they're going to have to depend on those 100,000 towns turning out and voting Democrat. They've already hurt themselves in Pennsylvania and West Virginia.<br/><br/>To tell the truth, the best thing McCain could do right now for the country is resign from the too of the ticket and let Palin pick a new VP with foreign policy experience.<br/><br/>Tom Hmmm. Probably no more so than citizens of large cities, Buck.

Oh…wait.

The point I was making was that it is not in the best interest of the Obama campaign to keep harping on her “small-town” roots, especially since they’re going to have to depend on those 100,000 towns turning out and voting Democrat. They’ve already hurt themselves in Pennsylvania and West Virginia.

To tell the truth, the best thing McCain could do right now for the country is resign from the too of the ticket and let Palin pick a new VP with foreign policy experience.

Tom

]]> By: Buck B. http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html/comment-page-1#comment-8159 Buck B. Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:40:00 +0000 http://www.bridgeportstudios.com/urbanagora/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html#comment-8159 And are the residents of these 100,000 small towns all stupid enough to vote for someone just because she has similar demographics? And are the residents of these 100,000 small towns all stupid enough to vote for someone just because she has similar demographics?

]]> By: tet http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html/comment-page-1#comment-8158 tet Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:14:00 +0000 http://www.bridgeportstudios.com/urbanagora/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html#comment-8158 Oh, one other demographic note:<br/><br/>There are more voters in the one hundred thousand small towns like the ones that Augur, me, and Gov. Palin come from than there are in the big cities that conventional wisdom expects to win elections.<br/><br/>Tom Oh, one other demographic note:

There are more voters in the one hundred thousand small towns like the ones that Augur, me, and Gov. Palin come from than there are in the big cities that conventional wisdom expects to win elections.

Tom

]]> By: tet http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html/comment-page-1#comment-8157 tet Thu, 04 Sep 2008 17:10:00 +0000 http://www.bridgeportstudios.com/urbanagora/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html#comment-8157 I thought the community organizer line was the funniest fucking thing I've heard all week.<br/><br/>Tom I thought the community organizer line was the funniest fucking thing I’ve heard all week.

Tom

]]> By: J. Prescott http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html/comment-page-1#comment-8156 J. Prescott Thu, 04 Sep 2008 14:51:00 +0000 http://www.bridgeportstudios.com/urbanagora/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html#comment-8156 Ok, I wasn't expecting Brian to say "wowzer, what a great speech," but to say it was "stunningly" negative especially when put in context with Senator Biden's speech seems silly. That is what vice presidents do at conventions. Biden gave a comparable speech in terms of his attempts to tear down McCain. I think Palin did it better, but I admit a bias. Ok, I wasn’t expecting Brian to say “wowzer, what a great speech,” but to say it was “stunningly” negative especially when put in context with Senator Biden’s speech seems silly. That is what vice presidents do at conventions. Biden gave a comparable speech in terms of his attempts to tear down McCain. I think Palin did it better, but I admit a bias.

]]> By: Brian http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html/comment-page-1#comment-8153 Brian Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:06:00 +0000 http://www.bridgeportstudios.com/urbanagora/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html#comment-8153 This is an e-mail I wrote last night to my family in response to my mom asking us what we thought:<br/><br/>I think it was shockingly negative. Like much of McCain's campaign, I think they did something that people will initially find sharp or compelling, but which leaves itself wide open to Obama's jujitsu style of counter-attack. I mean, mocking his community organizing?<br/><br/>If she had gotten on stage and taken an approach that validated people's concerns about her ("I know a lot of people have been concerned about my experience, and given the dangers that face our country and the importance of the issues, they have every right to be...") and then helped to explain them away ("...but here are some concrete things I did as governor, and here are some things I'd like to do as Vice President..."), I think it would have been a speech with some lasting effect. As is, I think it was a speech that will give them a bounce which will quickly fizzle out.<br/><br/>Certainly tonight was better for the GOP than last night, but the whole thing still feels a little old and a little tired. I am not, thus far, shaking in my boots, and don't expect to be after tomorrow night.<br/><br/>---<br/><br/>To say something more positive about the speech, I think Palin successfully turned herself into a non-factor when she had been for the past couple days a bit of a drag. As is the case with most VP candidates, that is probably what she will continue to be until election day as long as she doesn't totally screw something up (and even perhaps if she does). This is an e-mail I wrote last night to my family in response to my mom asking us what we thought:

I think it was shockingly negative. Like much of McCain’s campaign, I think they did something that people will initially find sharp or compelling, but which leaves itself wide open to Obama’s jujitsu style of counter-attack. I mean, mocking his community organizing?

If she had gotten on stage and taken an approach that validated people’s concerns about her (”I know a lot of people have been concerned about my experience, and given the dangers that face our country and the importance of the issues, they have every right to be…”) and then helped to explain them away (”…but here are some concrete things I did as governor, and here are some things I’d like to do as Vice President…”), I think it would have been a speech with some lasting effect. As is, I think it was a speech that will give them a bounce which will quickly fizzle out.

Certainly tonight was better for the GOP than last night, but the whole thing still feels a little old and a little tired. I am not, thus far, shaking in my boots, and don’t expect to be after tomorrow night.

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To say something more positive about the speech, I think Palin successfully turned herself into a non-factor when she had been for the past couple days a bit of a drag. As is the case with most VP candidates, that is probably what she will continue to be until election day as long as she doesn’t totally screw something up (and even perhaps if she does).

]]> By: JayBandit http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html/comment-page-1#comment-8152 JayBandit Thu, 04 Sep 2008 10:51:00 +0000 http://www.bridgeportstudios.com/urbanagora/2008/09/pitbull-with-lipstick.html#comment-8152 telling people when her son is deploying isn't against the rules. People all the time talk about how their kid or brother or whatnot will be deploying "next week" or whatnot. When you deploy, you don't actually go there right away. She couldn't be releasing any sensitive information because she wouldn't even know that information. My buddy had a tour of duty in Iraq, and he went to Kuwait for a few months before even getting into Iraq.<br/><br/>So, in conclusion, that is the dumbest criticism by a supposed "expert" I've ever heard. telling people when her son is deploying isn’t against the rules. People all the time talk about how their kid or brother or whatnot will be deploying “next week” or whatnot. When you deploy, you don’t actually go there right away. She couldn’t be releasing any sensitive information because she wouldn’t even know that information. My buddy had a tour of duty in Iraq, and he went to Kuwait for a few months before even getting into Iraq.

So, in conclusion, that is the dumbest criticism by a supposed “expert” I’ve ever heard.

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