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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/03/can-we-get-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-6135</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Smart people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Smart people</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/03/can-we-get-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-6134</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>katie:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Satya was referring to working-class, blue-collar whites, which are the demographic that Obama is going after right now.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You are right that a portion of the &quot;white&quot; American electorate is receptive to Obama, the &quot;U of I&quot; being a prime example because it is filled with young university students, a demographic that Obama has largely captured already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>katie:</p>
<p>Satya was referring to working-class, blue-collar whites, which are the demographic that Obama is going after right now.  </p>
<p>You are right that a portion of the &#8220;white&#8221; American electorate is receptive to Obama, the &#8220;U of I&#8221; being a prime example because it is filled with young university students, a demographic that Obama has largely captured already.</p>
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		<title>By: Satya</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/03/can-we-get-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-6133</link>
		<dc:creator>Satya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anonymous, I will write more about campaigning for Barack later, but I&#039;ll say now that I&#039;ve had a fantastic time doing so, met fabulous supporters, staffers, interns, and volunteers, and it&#039;s been an amazing learning experience.  I&#039;ve met both Barack and Michelle more than once, and I&#039;m huge fans.  Huge.  I absolutely love them.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Allan, ABC&#039;s Terry Moran asked the question about black man vs. American.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Brian, good point mentioning his speeches after Iowa, NH, and SC.  I also really loved his speech on March 4th.  I was at the NH and SC speeches, but still I&#039;m sticking with the Iowa JJ Dinner!   &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Katie, I saw the black vs. American question not driving at his supporter demographics, but questioning the self-definition of blacks in America.  As for his support, both people involved in his campaign and his voters, I&#039;m continually surprised by the breadth of the people he&#039;s reaching.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anonymous, I will write more about campaigning for Barack later, but I&#8217;ll say now that I&#8217;ve had a fantastic time doing so, met fabulous supporters, staffers, interns, and volunteers, and it&#8217;s been an amazing learning experience.  I&#8217;ve met both Barack and Michelle more than once, and I&#8217;m huge fans.  Huge.  I absolutely love them.  </p>
<p>Allan, ABC&#8217;s Terry Moran asked the question about black man vs. American.</p>
<p>Brian, good point mentioning his speeches after Iowa, NH, and SC.  I also really loved his speech on March 4th.  I was at the NH and SC speeches, but still I&#8217;m sticking with the Iowa JJ Dinner!   </p>
<p>Katie, I saw the black vs. American question not driving at his supporter demographics, but questioning the self-definition of blacks in America.  As for his support, both people involved in his campaign and his voters, I&#8217;m continually surprised by the breadth of the people he&#8217;s reaching.</p>
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		<title>By: tet</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/03/can-we-get-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-6130</link>
		<dc:creator>tet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, Brian.  I was posting under the after-effects of anesthesia and I made more than one mistake.  Sorry about that.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Brian.  I was posting under the after-effects of anesthesia and I made more than one mistake.  Sorry about that.</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Not to take the conversation too far off on a limb, but in that context I actually MEANT tolerance, not acceptance. Members of each religion obviously think members of the other religion are wrong, but they *tolerate* that wrongness, without necessarily accepting it. And that&#039;s good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>Not to take the conversation too far off on a limb, but in that context I actually MEANT tolerance, not acceptance. Members of each religion obviously think members of the other religion are wrong, but they *tolerate* that wrongness, without necessarily accepting it. And that&#8217;s good.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.urbanagora.com/2008/03/can-we-get-it.html/comment-page-1#comment-6124</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my previous comment, it should read &quot;(e.g. the Reverend White controversy)&quot; not &quot;ie.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Oops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my previous comment, it should read &#8220;(e.g. the Reverend White controversy)&#8221; not &#8220;ie.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oops.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 04:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for that distinction between tolerance and acceptance. I think it&#039;s unintentionally misused far too often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom,</p>
<p>Thanks for that distinction between tolerance and acceptance. I think it&#8217;s unintentionally misused far too often.</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 04:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satya,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for the post. I&#039;d also be interested in hearing more about your experience working for Obama and how you think it compares to working for other candidates. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;The black man/American quote does not seem to accurately describe &quot;white&quot; america&#039;s reception of Obama. Maybe my perspective is tainted by the Obama love-fest that is the U of I, but some of his biggest supporters (especially among young people) are white. Has your experience been different?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Maybe this is misguided, but it seems to me that race has been made an issue by the media (ie the Reverend White controversy), perhaps out of disappointment by America&#039;s embrace of Obama as a viable presidential candidate (at least on the Democratic side).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satya,</p>
<p>Thanks for the post. I&#8217;d also be interested in hearing more about your experience working for Obama and how you think it compares to working for other candidates. </p>
<p>The black man/American quote does not seem to accurately describe &#8220;white&#8221; america&#8217;s reception of Obama. Maybe my perspective is tainted by the Obama love-fest that is the U of I, but some of his biggest supporters (especially among young people) are white. Has your experience been different?</p>
<p>Maybe this is misguided, but it seems to me that race has been made an issue by the media (ie the Reverend White controversy), perhaps out of disappointment by America&#8217;s embrace of Obama as a viable presidential candidate (at least on the Democratic side).</p>
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		<title>By: tet</title>
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		<dc:creator>tet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 03:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe white privilege is a myth.  White people already know all these things, they&#039;re just too scared of being fired or harassed for saying them.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Twenty-five years ago, before political correctness made this kind of conversation dangerous, people discussed these issues openly and freely.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;There &lt;b&gt;are&lt;/b&gt; subcultures across the country, but I am much more likely to be understood by a poor black man due to my childhood poverty than I am by a non-geek because of his lack of technical education.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;&quot;White privilege&quot; is a victim&#039;s chant.  It&#039;s time for blacks people to be winners.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Brian, btw, I noticed you using the word &quot;tolerance&quot; a lot in your post earlier.  Remember what I quoted before--&quot;Tolerance implies that there&#039;s something wrong with the person.  Try acceptance instead.&quot;&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Tom</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe white privilege is a myth.  White people already know all these things, they&#8217;re just too scared of being fired or harassed for saying them.</p>
<p>Twenty-five years ago, before political correctness made this kind of conversation dangerous, people discussed these issues openly and freely.</p>
<p>There <b>are</b> subcultures across the country, but I am much more likely to be understood by a poor black man due to my childhood poverty than I am by a non-geek because of his lack of technical education.</p>
<p>&#8220;White privilege&#8221; is a victim&#8217;s chant.  It&#8217;s time for blacks people to be winners.</p>
<p>Brian, btw, I noticed you using the word &#8220;tolerance&#8221; a lot in your post earlier.  Remember what I quoted before&#8211;&#8221;Tolerance implies that there&#8217;s something wrong with the person.  Try acceptance instead.&#8221;</p>
<p>Tom</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Satya,&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Quality post. You got me thinking about what my own personal favorite Obama speech is. Three that you didn&#039;t mention are the ones that followed the first three major primaries: Iowa, NH, SC. Another is his speech on faith and politics. I don&#039;t know which I&#039;d pick, but I&#039;m definitely looking forward to his convention acceptance. :-)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Countdown to Billy saying something inane and resentful b/c nobody is saying this sort of thing about McCain in 3...2...1...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Satya,</p>
<p>Quality post. You got me thinking about what my own personal favorite Obama speech is. Three that you didn&#8217;t mention are the ones that followed the first three major primaries: Iowa, NH, SC. Another is his speech on faith and politics. I don&#8217;t know which I&#8217;d pick, but I&#8217;m definitely looking forward to his convention acceptance. :-)</p>
<p>Countdown to Billy saying something inane and resentful b/c nobody is saying this sort of thing about McCain in 3&#8230;2&#8230;1&#8230;</p>
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